20% of new car sales in the UK are EV's and we have removed most subsidies.
You might not like the future but it is coming anyway.
20% of new car sales in the UK are EV's and we have removed most subsidies.
How does any of that undermine the transition to EV ?
That's an easy bet, even if everybody was onboard on EV's there is no way that transition can happen in a quick enough timeframe to obsolete gas stations by then. There are ICE cars rolling off the production line right now that will still be driving around in twenty years or more.
Disagree: one can bet a sum of money that is meaningful enough to care about the outcome but not big enough to create stress if lost.loutfard wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:33 amOff topic: Money at stake will filter some poor people from prediction markets. Look at how that worked for plural voting in the past. That's not to say there aren't lots of idiotic big mouth pea brains around with oozes of time to spend. I just like to speculate about more effective ways of avoiding those. Avoiding social media looks like a winner there...
I'm taking that bet too: >50% of cars produced in 2036 will have some form of gas/diesel powered engine in them (that includes PHEV).ducknald_don wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:53 amA more interesting question is will we still be making ICE cars in 2036. I'm not so sure about that, at least in terms of volume manufacturing.
Published Jan. 20, 2023
General Motors Co. announced Jan. 20 plans to invest $918 million in four U.S. manufacturing sites, including $854 million to prepare these facilities to produce the company’s sixth generation Small Block V-8 engine and an additional $64 million in Rochester, NY, and Defiance, OH, for castings and components to support EV production.
The total cost of owning an electric vehicle is, over its entire life, roughly 1/4 to 1/3 the cost of a gasoline-powered vehicle.
Of course, with a 500,000 mile life a car will last 40–50 years. And it seems absurd to expect a single person to own just one car in her life.
But of course a person won’t own just one car. The most likely scenario is that, thanks to software, a person won’t own any.
Perhaps, but it's a perfect way to verify if someone really believes in what they're saying. If they do, they should get out of their way to take the bet, as they're basically being offered free money.
It is a great way to separate wishful thinking from real conviction.
I'll commit $1,000,000 to anyone that gas stations will be around long before everyone on this forum becomes completely carbon neutral (100+ years).chenda wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:13 pmHow does any of that undermine the transition to EV ?
See government stats here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistic ... ember-2022